For the first few years the barrels of the M1867 were made of iron, but after 1871, steel became the standardized material.Ill take a WAG, and say that you have a Remington 4 Rolling Block Boys Rifle, since the earlier ones were made with 22 octagonal bbls (measured inside the bore, from muzzle to face of closed breech).
Remington Rolling Block Number 5 Remington Rolling Block Rifle Serial Numbers And Dates Remington M1867 Swedish rifle m1867. Remington Rolling Block Rifle Identification Serial 1 TypePattern (Modellexemplar), serial 1 Type Place of origin United States Sweden Norway Service history In service 1867mid-1890s (rifle) 18881908 (modified carbines) Production history Designer Joseph Rider Designed 1867 No. ![]() The 12.17 mm caliber was chosen because the Swedish army had approximately 30,000 new muzzle-loading Model 1860 and breech-loading Model 1864 rifles in 12.17 mm caliber in stock, rifles that were suitable for conversion to Model 1867 rolling block rifles. With the exception of the first 10,000 rifles and 20,000 actions (for conversions of older rifles), which were made by Remington in the US, all Model 1867 Remington rolling block rifles and carbines were made under license in Sweden and Norway, by Carl Gustafs stads Gevrsfaktori and Husqvarna Vapenfabriks Aktiebolag in Sweden and by Kongsberg Vaapenfabrik in Norway, with the two Swedish manufacturers producing about 80 of the weapons. Birth of the M1867 edit In the 1860s the Swedish and Norwegian armies realized that their standard rifles, both percussion lock breech-loading rifles and muzzle loaders, were rapidly becoming obsolete in the face of the new metal cartridge combining bullet, primer and propellant load. In early October 1866, a joint Swedish-Norwegian arms commission was established in order to select a suitable cartridge and rifle for the two nations. Several different cartridges and rifles were considered by the commission. A partial list includes: A Prussian needle gun designed in 1866. Larsen and Steenstrup - two different modifications of the standard issue army rifle at the time. Non-repeating rifles for metallic cartridges: Peabody - American lever-action Remington - American, rolling block Larsen - two related, but different Norwegian designs. One lever-action, one bolt action Repeating rifles for metallic cartridges: Spencer - American design, removable magazine in the buttstock Henry - American design, tubular magazine under the barrel Larsen - Norwegian modification of the Henry Repeating rifles for paper cartridges: Palmcrantz - Swedish design (See Helge Palmcrantz) Percussion rifles: Burnside - American design with metallic cartridge Sharps - American design using paper cartridges After various tests, including repeated firings, it was clear that the needle guns were not particularly well-suited. These - along with the repeating rifles - were dropped from further testing. Further testing - which included test firing by previously untrained troops - showed that both the Peabody and the Remington was suitable for issuing to the field army. In the end, the commission based their decision on price and complexity. The Remington totalled a mere 25 parts to the Peabodys 37, and it was approved for use by both the Swedish and the Norwegian armed forces, as their standard military rifle, on 22 November 1867. The M1867 in Sweden edit About 200,000-220,000 military rifles and 7,000 military carbines using the m1867 action were manufactured as complete weapons in Sweden, 100,000-120,000 rifles and 4,000 carbines by Carl Gustafs Stads Gevrsfaktori (a government owned arsenal) and 100,000 rifles and 3,000 carbines by Husqvarna Vapenfabriks Aktiebolag. In addition to that 10,000 complete rifles and 20,000 actions made in the US were bought from Remington. The standard rifle received the Swedish designation gevr m1867 (and a version with only minor differences the designation gevr m1867-68). Approximately 30,000 Swedish muzzle-loading rifles m1860 and breech-loading rifles m1864 (some of which had been converted from m1860; note that the Swedish breech-loading rifle m1864 although being referred to as a kammarladdare was not the same rifle as the Norwegian Kammerlader) of the same caliber, rifles that were almost new and in most cases had never been used, were also converted to M1867 Remington rolling block using actions made both by Remington and in Sweden. One model of Swedish military M1867 rifles modified to use the 12.1744mmR centerfire cartridge was the gevr m1867-74. A new Swedish-Norwegian arms commission set up in the 1880s suggested that the Norwegian M1884 Jarmann rifle should replace the m1867 in both Swedish and Norwegian service but the Jarmann rifle was rejected by the Swedish Army since the 10.15x61mmR cartridge used by the Jarmann rifle was seen as being too little of an improvement over the 12.17 mm cartridge used in the Model 1867 rifles. Remington Rolling Block Rifle Identification Plus Military RiflesSurplus military rifles were also sold to civilians, most them being converted to 12.1744mmR centerfire cartridges. The M1867 in Norway edit A grand total of 58,450 Remington M1867 were delivered to the Norwegian Armed Forces from 1867 until 1883, when production was curtailed to make room for the Jarmann M1884. All production rifles were meant to be manufactured at Kongsberg Vpenfabrik in Norway, but since the factory needed to be upgraded with more modern machinery, 5000 of the first rifles delivered to the Norwegian Army were manufactured by Husqvarna Vapenfabrik in Sweden in 1871-72. The difference is minor; the Norwegian rifles have brass buttplates and head of the cleaning rod, and steel mounting bands, while Swedish rifles have iron furniture.
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